Difference between revisions of "Talk:Vocabulary in authority fields 368, 372, and 374"

 
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*Use the shared local file AuthorityConstantData for all activities and occupations already provided for.  
 
*Use the shared local file AuthorityConstantData for all activities and occupations already provided for.  
 
*For recurring activities and occupations without constant data, consult the NACO Coordinator  
 
*For recurring activities and occupations without constant data, consult the NACO Coordinator  
*Prefer drawing out activities and occupations that are of relevance to the Folger: booktrade, performing arts, writers, scholars, translators, editors. *No need to be comprehensive for persons and corporations with widely varying activities (But, see question below)
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*Prefer drawing out activities and occupations that are of relevance to the Folger: booktrade, performing arts, writers, scholars, translators, editors.  
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*No need to be comprehensive for persons and corporations with widely varying activities (But, see question below)
 
*372
 
*372
 
**Use broad and narrow terms in 372; generally, a broad term from LCSH along with broad and narrow terms from AAT, as exist in constant data cluster  
 
**Use broad and narrow terms in 372; generally, a broad term from LCSH along with broad and narrow terms from AAT, as exist in constant data cluster  
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*More investigation: "Poetry" is in Associated concepts, while there is [http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=theater&logic=AND&note=&subjectid=300132464 Religious functions] in the Activities facet.
 
*More investigation: "Poetry" is in Associated concepts, while there is [http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=theater&logic=AND&note=&subjectid=300132464 Religious functions] in the Activities facet.
 
*Instead of insisting on the Activities Facet for 372, prefer that facet except when there's no associated activity that fits, as with poets and poetry and other types of literary composition.  
 
*Instead of insisting on the Activities Facet for 372, prefer that facet except when there's no associated activity that fits, as with poets and poetry and other types of literary composition.  
--[[User:DeborahLeslie|Deborah J. Leslie]] ([[User talk:DeborahLeslie|talk]]) 17:55, 23 March 2015 (EDT)  
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--[[User:DeborahLeslie|Deborah J. Leslie]] ([[User talk:DeborahLeslie|talk]]) 17:55, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
 
 
  
 
== Clergy ==
 
== Clergy ==

Latest revision as of 14:13, 24 March 2015

Thinking out loud: formulation and preferences

  • Use the shared local file AuthorityConstantData for all activities and occupations already provided for.
  • For recurring activities and occupations without constant data, consult the NACO Coordinator
  • Prefer drawing out activities and occupations that are of relevance to the Folger: booktrade, performing arts, writers, scholars, translators, editors.
  • No need to be comprehensive for persons and corporations with widely varying activities (But, see question below)
  • 372
    • Use broad and narrow terms in 372; generally, a broad term from LCSH along with broad and narrow terms from AAT, as exist in constant data cluster
    • Prefer the AAT Activities Facet
    • Disciplines hierarchy for scholars and practitioners, Image-making processes and techniques for booktrade.
  • 374
    • Use narrow terms in 374. Prefer the AAT Agents Facet
  • Questions
    • For out-of-scope (to us) occupations and activities, how about if we let the cataloger choose a narrow occupation from AAT or ITOAMC or wherever, but not bother with trying to come up with a field of endeavor or area of expertise?
    • How clustered do we want the constant data clusters to be? For example, translators of plays and poetry and prose all get "374 Translators." Do we want the constant data record to be inclusive, and have the cataloger delete terms that don't pertain, or divided into smaller clusters and have the cataloger add the component parts to build the NAR? [Create examples]

--Deborah J. Leslie (talk) 15:28, 23 March 2015 (EDT)

  • More investigation: "Poetry" is in Associated concepts, while there is Religious functions in the Activities facet.
  • Instead of insisting on the Activities Facet for 372, prefer that facet except when there's no associated activity that fits, as with poets and poetry and other types of literary composition.

--Deborah J. Leslie (talk) 17:55, 23 March 2015 (EDT)

Clergy

I've narrowed it down to prefer the AAT Activities Facet -> disciplines hierarchy for 372's instead of the Associated Concepts Facet. But with clergy, the Religion (discipline) is scoped "Study of religious beliefs and traditions in human life and culture from the perspective of the humanistic disciplines."

A related concept under Christian clergy is that they "practice/study Christianity." But practicing/studying Christianity isn't peculiar to clergy. Besides, and more problematic, Christianity is in the Associated Concepts Facet.

Facet/hierarchy scope notes

Activities Facet: The Activities facet encompasses areas of endeavor, physical and mental actions, discrete occurrences, systematic sequences of actions, methods employed toward a certain end, and processes occurring in materials or objects. Activities covered here range from branches of learning and professional fields to specific life events, from mentally executed tasks to processes performed on or with materials and objects, from single physical actions to complex games.

Disciplines (hierarchy name): The Disciplines hierarchy contains descriptors for branches of learning, areas of specialization, and professions and professional specialties. Relation to Other Hierarchies: Material-specific or object-specific activities appear primarily in the Processes and Techniques hierarchy (e.g., metalworking, carpentry) while more general professional activities appear here (e.g., civil engineering). Theories relating to disciplines appear in the Associated Concepts hierarchy, (e.g., structuralism). Descriptors for activities conducted in order to accomplish specific purposes appear in the Functions hierarchy (e.g., researching, criticism).
Disciplines: Branches of learning, professions, and areas of professional specialization.
Religion (discipline): Study of religious beliefs and traditions in human life and culture from the perspective of the humanistic disciplines.

Professional Christians fall between the cracks. Keeping in mind that Theater (discipline) is in the disciplines hierarchy, scoped: Refers to the professionally oriented study of theater, involving training, practice, and study in the processes of doing theater. For the academically oriented study of theater, see "drama."

Or, apply the suggestion of not bothering with 372's for "out-of-scope" occupations.

--Deborah J. Leslie (talk) 16:08, 23 March 2015 (EDT)