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**How clustered do we want the constant data clusters to be? For example, translators of plays and poetry and prose all get "374 Translators." Do we want the constant data record to be inclusive, and have the cataloger delete terms that don't pertain, or divided into smaller clusters and have the cataloger add the component parts to build the NAR? [Create examples]
 
**How clustered do we want the constant data clusters to be? For example, translators of plays and poetry and prose all get "374 Translators." Do we want the constant data record to be inclusive, and have the cataloger delete terms that don't pertain, or divided into smaller clusters and have the cataloger add the component parts to build the NAR? [Create examples]
 
--[[User:DeborahLeslie|Deborah J. Leslie]] ([[User talk:DeborahLeslie|talk]]) 15:28, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
 
--[[User:DeborahLeslie|Deborah J. Leslie]] ([[User talk:DeborahLeslie|talk]]) 15:28, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
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== Clergy ==
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I've narrowed it down to prefer the AAT Activities Facet -> disciplines hierarchy for 372's instead of the Associated Concepts Facet. But with clergy, the Religion (discipline) is scoped "''Study of'' religious beliefs and traditions in human life and culture from the perspective of the humanistic disciplines."
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A related concept under [http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=christian+clergy&logic=AND&note=&subjectid=300239152 Christian clergy] is that they "practice/study Christianity." But [http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=christianity&logic=AND&note=&page=1&subjectid=300073711 Christianity] is in the Associated concepts Facet. "Refers to the world religion and culture that developed in the first century CE, driven by the teachings of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Its roots are in the Judaic tradition and the Old Testament. The tenets include a belief in the death and redemptive resurrection of Jesus. The religion incorporates a tradition of faith, ritual, and a form of church authority or leadership."
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Scope of [http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=&logic=AND&note=&subjectid=300264090 Activities Facet]: The Activities facet encompasses areas of endeavor, physical and mental actions, discrete occurrences, systematic sequences of actions, methods employed toward a certain end, and processes occurring in materials or objects. Activities covered here range from branches of learning and professional fields to specific life events, from mentally executed tasks to processes performed on or with materials and objects, from single physical actions to complex games.
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:[http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=&logic=AND&note=&subjectid=300054134 Disciplines (hierarchy name)]: The Disciplines hierarchy contains descriptors for branches of learning, areas of specialization, and professions and professional specialties. Relation to Other Hierarchies: Material-specific or object-specific activities appear primarily in the Processes and Techniques hierarchy (e.g., metalworking, carpentry) while more general professional activities appear here (e.g., civil engineering). Theories relating to disciplines appear in the Associated Concepts hierarchy, (e.g., structuralism). Descriptors for activities conducted in order to accomplish specific purposes appear in the Functions hierarchy (e.g., researching, criticism).
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::Scope of [http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=religion&logic=AND&note=&subjectid=300054135 Disciplines]: Branches of learning, professions, and areas of professional specialization.
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:::Scope of [http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=&logic=AND&note=&subjectid=300054300 Religion (discipline)]: Study of religious beliefs and traditions in human life and culture from the perspective of the humanistic disciplines.
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Professional Christians fall between the cracks. I propose we consider the hierarchy as more important than the scope note, and, along with the "practice/study" verbiage, engage in a confident use of "Religion (discipline)." 
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--[[User:DeborahLeslie|Deborah J. Leslie]] ([[User talk:DeborahLeslie|talk]]) 16:08, 23 March 2015 (EDT)

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Thinking out loud: formulation and preferences

  • Use the shared local file AuthorityConstantData for all activities and occupations already provided for.
  • For recurring activities and occupations without constant data, consult the NACO Coordinator
  • Prefer drawing out activities and occupations that are of relevance to the Folger: booktrade, performing arts, writers, scholars, translators, editors. *No need to be comprehensive for persons and corporations with widely varying activities (But, see question below)
  • 372
    • Use broad and narrow terms in 372; generally, a broad term from LCSH along with broad and narrow terms from AAT, as exist in constant data cluster
    • Prefer the AAT Activities Facet > Disciplines hierarchy
    • Disciplines hierarchy for scholarly output
  • 374
    • Use narrow terms in 374. Prefer the AAT Agents Facet
  • Questions
    • For out-of-scope (to us) occupations and activities, how about if we let the cataloger choose a narrow occupation from AAT or ITOAMC or wherever, but not bother with trying to come up with a field of endeavor or area of expertise?
    • How clustered do we want the constant data clusters to be? For example, translators of plays and poetry and prose all get "374 Translators." Do we want the constant data record to be inclusive, and have the cataloger delete terms that don't pertain, or divided into smaller clusters and have the cataloger add the component parts to build the NAR? [Create examples]

--Deborah J. Leslie (talk) 15:28, 23 March 2015 (EDT)

Clergy

I've narrowed it down to prefer the AAT Activities Facet -> disciplines hierarchy for 372's instead of the Associated Concepts Facet. But with clergy, the Religion (discipline) is scoped "Study of religious beliefs and traditions in human life and culture from the perspective of the humanistic disciplines."

A related concept under Christian clergy is that they "practice/study Christianity." But Christianity is in the Associated concepts Facet. "Refers to the world religion and culture that developed in the first century CE, driven by the teachings of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Its roots are in the Judaic tradition and the Old Testament. The tenets include a belief in the death and redemptive resurrection of Jesus. The religion incorporates a tradition of faith, ritual, and a form of church authority or leadership."

More info: Scope of Activities Facet: The Activities facet encompasses areas of endeavor, physical and mental actions, discrete occurrences, systematic sequences of actions, methods employed toward a certain end, and processes occurring in materials or objects. Activities covered here range from branches of learning and professional fields to specific life events, from mentally executed tasks to processes performed on or with materials and objects, from single physical actions to complex games.

Disciplines (hierarchy name): The Disciplines hierarchy contains descriptors for branches of learning, areas of specialization, and professions and professional specialties. Relation to Other Hierarchies: Material-specific or object-specific activities appear primarily in the Processes and Techniques hierarchy (e.g., metalworking, carpentry) while more general professional activities appear here (e.g., civil engineering). Theories relating to disciplines appear in the Associated Concepts hierarchy, (e.g., structuralism). Descriptors for activities conducted in order to accomplish specific purposes appear in the Functions hierarchy (e.g., researching, criticism).
Scope of Disciplines: Branches of learning, professions, and areas of professional specialization.
Scope of Religion (discipline): Study of religious beliefs and traditions in human life and culture from the perspective of the humanistic disciplines.

Professional Christians fall between the cracks. I propose we consider the hierarchy as more important than the scope note, and, along with the "practice/study" verbiage, engage in a confident use of "Religion (discipline)."

--Deborah J. Leslie (talk) 16:08, 23 March 2015 (EDT)